Saturday, January 23, 2010

What are the hidden dangers that can tear a marriage apart with out realizing they are happening?

Playing dumb games like well if they don't remember to do this, I'll forget to do that. Or he hasn't told me I'm pretty in forever, so I'm not going to let him enjoy the football game, as opposed to thinking he hasn't told me I'm pretty in forever so I'm going to dress up really nice and try to get his attention. In other words waiting for the other person to do something nice first.





Sorry...I just realize I was making it like it was always the womans fault, it isn't guys need to remember to be nice to their wives and just do random acts of love and kindness for them as well.What are the hidden dangers that can tear a marriage apart with out realizing they are happening?
The main thing is apathy. Things are just OK. Because things aren't ';bad'; you don't feel like you need counseling or anything, so you let things go. All the while, you are slowly drifting apart, settling into a routine that is completely unfulfilling. One day, you wake up and start to realize you are miserable and resent your husband/wife when they aren't immediately able to recognize and deal with a marriage crisis they didn't see coming. Or, because you are bored and aren't really working on your marriage, you are easily tempted when someone charming and interesting makes advances. The comparison of this new, exciting relationship and your boring, stale marriage is not a favorable one.What are the hidden dangers that can tear a marriage apart with out realizing they are happening?
Thinking that just because you are married that you %26amp; your spouses ability to become ';attracted'; to a member of the opposite sex ';shuts off';. Human biology doesn't really care about ';marriage';. So as one person already said (even though they got a thumbs down), stay away from forming friendships with a member of the opposite sex.
People get comfortable with one another and stop doing simple things like talking about their day to one another, having passion and fun in the bedroom, make time for one another


People also take their partners for granted and do not show Application or say thank you, and treat them as a friend or acquaintance instead of their wife or husband


Couples often loose their spark for one another, things should never get old or stop just because time passes
each having seperate opposite sex friends. I'm sorry but it NEVER works...you think you can fool yourself and you think it won't happen to you. but are you willing to take THAT risk for your spouse?? you should love him/her so much you wouldn't breathe air IF you knew there might be a chance it would cause probs in the marraige. marraige is hard work and sacrifice....yet women don't want to give up their male friends and men dont want to give up their female friends. I just dont get it.
Becoming close friends with the opposite sex, it may be innocent in the beginning, but sooner or later one person wants it to go to the next level. Never take each other for granted and get too comfortable, that's when the problems start, believe me I'm living it right now.
So, okay here are 3:


1, Lack of communication.


2. Putting your own needs above the other person's needs.


3. Addiction (that is actually the worst one - and you would think it would not be ';hidden';, but that's how it gets you...)


GL
secrets, betrail, having things happening right in front of your nose and not wanting to see them for what they really are out of fear you will be facing the big D.


cheers


mystic
Becoming complacent and taking each other for granted.


You need to consistently spend time together, doing things you both enjoy, and TALK to each other, every single day.
White Lies nails that concern on the head.





Total openness %26amp; honesty is necessary but that can't happen without loving initmacy and eradication of your 'Ideal Husband'/'Ideal Wife' fantasies.
having kids -- that's what cranks things up a notch. Everything else is pretty easy in comparison to jointly raising kids
yes you can
Not making the other person feel needed. Every human wants to feel needed/wanted
spending a lot of time doing your thing
Drugs....cheating.....blind sided with unknown child support,and the list go on !!

My friend likes to marry an srilankan girl. He is a Indian. How to register this marriage legally?

She lives in UK (srilankan citizen). They are planing to have their marriage in India this december. What are the formalities that has to be done to make this marriage a legal one. Please advice. ThanksMy friend likes to marry an srilankan girl. He is a Indian. How to register this marriage legally?
THey have to get the paper work and get a lawyer for citizenship puposes and stuff.My friend likes to marry an srilankan girl. He is a Indian. How to register this marriage legally?
careful man.......
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  • Why should women suffix their husband's name after marriage?

    I have observed that many women, attach their husband's name after marriage. For Eg: Vidya Ramesh would change her name to Vidya Ravi after her marriage. Is it right on their part to replace her father name (Ramesh) to her husband's name (Ravi) in her name.Why should women suffix their husband's name after marriage?
    It's considered appropriate in the West for a woman to take her husband's name, signifying that a new family has been created from the marriage.





    Good Luck!Why should women suffix their husband's name after marriage?
    YEss its the right thing to do....


    what will your kids last name be than -- Ramesh or Ravi


    if Ramesh-- whos kids would they be considered


    of Ravi-- same thing whos kids would they be considered???


    THInk about it... n u will find the answer urself without even askin other people!!!
    Yes it is right to do but you do have the option of keeping your maiden name if you choose to.
    I think it's a sexist and outdated practice, but nonetheless most women do it. It's a personal choice.
    You can chose to take it, but not all American women do so. Its just a personal preference!





    You could hyphenate it....Vidya Ravi-Ramesh
    Its what we do!





    You don't HAVE to change your last name, but most women are excited to take their husbands last name.
    Claire seems to love it ! The chain is pretty ! Get her a new pair of bees earrings With golden antenas and ruby eyes !

    What are the hidden dangers that can tear a marriage apart with out realizing they are happening?

    Playing dumb games like well if they don't remember to do this, I'll forget to do that. Or he hasn't told me I'm pretty in forever, so I'm not going to let him enjoy the football game, as opposed to thinking he hasn't told me I'm pretty in forever so I'm going to dress up really nice and try to get his attention. In other words waiting for the other person to do something nice first.





    Sorry...I just realize I was making it like it was always the womans fault, it isn't guys need to remember to be nice to their wives and just do random acts of love and kindness for them as well.What are the hidden dangers that can tear a marriage apart with out realizing they are happening?
    The main thing is apathy. Things are just OK. Because things aren't ';bad'; you don't feel like you need counseling or anything, so you let things go. All the while, you are slowly drifting apart, settling into a routine that is completely unfulfilling. One day, you wake up and start to realize you are miserable and resent your husband/wife when they aren't immediately able to recognize and deal with a marriage crisis they didn't see coming. Or, because you are bored and aren't really working on your marriage, you are easily tempted when someone charming and interesting makes advances. The comparison of this new, exciting relationship and your boring, stale marriage is not a favorable one.What are the hidden dangers that can tear a marriage apart with out realizing they are happening?
    Thinking that just because you are married that you %26amp; your spouses ability to become ';attracted'; to a member of the opposite sex ';shuts off';. Human biology doesn't really care about ';marriage';. So as one person already said (even though they got a thumbs down), stay away from forming friendships with a member of the opposite sex.
    People get comfortable with one another and stop doing simple things like talking about their day to one another, having passion and fun in the bedroom, make time for one another


    People also take their partners for granted and do not show Application or say thank you, and treat them as a friend or acquaintance instead of their wife or husband


    Couples often loose their spark for one another, things should never get old or stop just because time passes
    each having seperate opposite sex friends. I'm sorry but it NEVER works...you think you can fool yourself and you think it won't happen to you. but are you willing to take THAT risk for your spouse?? you should love him/her so much you wouldn't breathe air IF you knew there might be a chance it would cause probs in the marraige. marraige is hard work and sacrifice....yet women don't want to give up their male friends and men dont want to give up their female friends. I just dont get it.
    Becoming close friends with the opposite sex, it may be innocent in the beginning, but sooner or later one person wants it to go to the next level. Never take each other for granted and get too comfortable, that's when the problems start, believe me I'm living it right now.
    So, okay here are 3:


    1, Lack of communication.


    2. Putting your own needs above the other person's needs.


    3. Addiction (that is actually the worst one - and you would think it would not be ';hidden';, but that's how it gets you...)


    GL
    secrets, betrail, having things happening right in front of your nose and not wanting to see them for what they really are out of fear you will be facing the big D.


    cheers


    mystic
    Becoming complacent and taking each other for granted.


    You need to consistently spend time together, doing things you both enjoy, and TALK to each other, every single day.
    White Lies nails that concern on the head.





    Total openness %26amp; honesty is necessary but that can't happen without loving initmacy and eradication of your 'Ideal Husband'/'Ideal Wife' fantasies.
    having kids -- that's what cranks things up a notch. Everything else is pretty easy in comparison to jointly raising kids
    yes you can
    Not making the other person feel needed. Every human wants to feel needed/wanted
    spending a lot of time doing your thing
    Drugs....cheating.....blind sided with unknown child support,and the list go on !!

    My friend likes to marry an srilankan girl. He is a Indian. How to register this marriage legally?

    She lives in UK (srilankan citizen). They are planing to have their marriage in India this december. What are the formalities that has to be done to make this marriage a legal one. Please advice. ThanksMy friend likes to marry an srilankan girl. He is a Indian. How to register this marriage legally?
    THey have to get the paper work and get a lawyer for citizenship puposes and stuff.My friend likes to marry an srilankan girl. He is a Indian. How to register this marriage legally?
    careful man.......

    Why should women suffix their husband's name after marriage?

    I have observed that many women, attach their husband's name after marriage. For Eg: Vidya Ramesh would change her name to Vidya Ravi after her marriage. Is it right on their part to replace her father name (Ramesh) to her husband's name (Ravi) in her name.Why should women suffix their husband's name after marriage?
    It's considered appropriate in the West for a woman to take her husband's name, signifying that a new family has been created from the marriage.





    Good Luck!Why should women suffix their husband's name after marriage?
    YEss its the right thing to do....


    what will your kids last name be than -- Ramesh or Ravi


    if Ramesh-- whos kids would they be considered


    of Ravi-- same thing whos kids would they be considered???


    THInk about it... n u will find the answer urself without even askin other people!!!
    Yes it is right to do but you do have the option of keeping your maiden name if you choose to.
    I think it's a sexist and outdated practice, but nonetheless most women do it. It's a personal choice.
    You can chose to take it, but not all American women do so. Its just a personal preference!





    You could hyphenate it....Vidya Ravi-Ramesh
    Its what we do!





    You don't HAVE to change your last name, but most women are excited to take their husbands last name.
    Claire seems to love it ! The chain is pretty ! Get her a new pair of bees earrings With golden antenas and ruby eyes !

    How do you stop the urge to ';beg';, ';ask';, ';try again';,';get forgiveness';, etc when there are marriage problems?

    I need help getting control over my emotions before I run my husband out of the Country...I love him and have made some mistakes that I have and continue to correct but I am afraid he wont give our marriage the chance, so I keep blurting out things I have already said and apologies I have already made. Help...Ideas please.How do you stop the urge to ';beg';, ';ask';, ';try again';,';get forgiveness';, etc when there are marriage problems?
    TROLL ALERT..... TROLL ALERT......TROLL ALERT.





    get counseling..... for yourself..... being a TROLL....





    and get counseling for your marriage.How do you stop the urge to ';beg';, ';ask';, ';try again';,';get forgiveness';, etc when there are marriage problems?
    Don't really know the stuff you did but I can't help but say you sound like me. Make sure that there are legitimate mistakes you made versus something or habits he can deal with like maybe you forget to put the top back on the toothpaste. Be careful it's not him trying conform you to the ';Wife'; he wants you to be. I've been there before and if thats the case you can never make them happy no matter how hard you try. Wish you to the best.
    Sweetie, always remember that death and life lies in the power of the tongue!! You must speak life into your marriage- especially if you cherish him! People say ';sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me';. Well, that's wrong! We, women don't realize what our words do to our men. When you apologize Sweetie, bury it, and change your ways. Our men suffer silently, they don't always speak what's on their mind, or show an emotion to what we say. Because of this, we get mad and ram them with the first thing that comes to mind, not knowing that its killing them softly. Do yourself a favor- clean the house, cook him his favorite dish, put on something sexy, apologize, bury it and MAINTAIN YOUR EMOTIONS!! There's still hope, because he still comes home. I hope this helps.
    Stop talking and start doing. Actions speak louder than words. Keep your mouth quiet...be pleasant and cheerful even if you are dying inside and make the changes you are talking about.





    I suggest read the book the Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands by Dr Laura Schlessinger and the Proper Care and Feeding of a Marriage
    stop blurting out the first thing that comes to mind.





    If what you are doing is ';hurting'; your situation - then change is needed. you either make the change - or he will.








    Definition of ';insanity'; -





    Doing the same thing over and over again - and expecting a different result.
    You need to slow down and think before you speak. Think about what you are about to say and how one may take it. learn to speak to other as you would have them speak to you. Simple life rules will take you a long way
    Just let it go! Nothing you say at this point is going to make anything any better. You must let time prove it.





    SWEET MILDRED IS MY LEADER...CRAWL INTO HER PLAYPEN WITH ME
    You have self esteem issues. You need to figure out who YOU are, as an individual, and make that person likeable.

    Is gay marriage a civil rights issue?

    I personally believe it is but I'd like to hear both sides.





    Thanks!





    PS. Why I believe it is a civil rights issue: Civil and political rights are a defined as class of rights ensuring (among other things) protection from discrimination based on gender, religion, sexual orientation, etc. Therefore, I believe it is discrimination to withhold the right to marry from homosexual couples. I am a traditional person, but I believe tradition has its place. Is gay marriage a civil rights issue?
    Marriage started out as a religious ceremony but when the government started giving married couples certain tax advantages that others not legally married could not receive; Then gay couples put their financial happiness in the hands of a government ruled by Christians who do not sanctify gay marriage.


    Were they to ignore the tax issue and marry only for love there would not be this problem.


    Sometimes when things don't go the way we would like it is better to let the heart lead rather than the pocketbook.


    If I were to find a significant other of the same sex; then that would be fortune enough for me.


    Is gay marriage a civil rights issue?
    Yes it is.





    The 14th Amendment guarantees equal protection and equal rights to all of its citizens. To allow heterosexuals to get married and bar that right to homosexuals is very very wrong.





    Prop 8 was a silly prop because if it passed, it's going to get overturned anyway.There are people filing civil law suits against it. Yesterday about 18,000 marriage licenses belong to gay couples have been nulled.





    They got screwed over =(
    depends on who you ask %26gt;%26lt;





    i dont agree..the definition of marriage in the dictionary is between a man and a women...





    i am fine with them having some sort of union but if we are to use words properly it could never be marriage. i think they should make a new word/definition. mustriage is my idea oO





    i am for civil unions however =/





    the fact is it shouldn't* be up to the state anyways...it should be up to the church. the state should have nothing to do with it.
    Damn right it's a civil rights issue. I cannot believe after America took that HUGE progressive step forward that the state of California, a BLUE STATE no less, took that huge step backward. Well that's what you get for having CONAN as your goddamn governor.





    People think gay marriage degrades the word marriage? I'll tell you what degrades marriage... DIVORCE!
    Its not a right to marry. It is a privilege to marry. Being so the state has the right to dictate the rules on marriage. Man and Woman is how the state wants it so that's the way it is.


    Your drivers license is a Privileg given to you by the state, thus the state can put whatever restrictions on it they like.
    The ability to give one person the ability to make life and death decisions for another should not be limited to heteros.





    On a side note: I would love to see a guy any guy in a divorce get all the stuff like a woman does.
    As unfortunate as it is, yes it is a civil rights issue and how ridiculous is it that a basic human right has been turned into any kind of an issue!
    No because marriage is not a right





    thumbs down will not change reality





    Marriage is a privilege not a right
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  • What would you take into consideration when dealing with a situation where two needs in a marriage are in ?

    conflict? Do you choose the man's need over the woman's most of the time? The other way around? Do you just flip a coin? What would you take into consideration when dealing with a situation where two needs in a marriage are in ?
    The woman sometimes needs to use her skills, not in a harmful way but in a way where both are winners, get my drift? ; )What would you take into consideration when dealing with a situation where two needs in a marriage are in ?
    Thanks Crone. : )

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    dear, i think the best answer may be compromise... its the two of you. in a marriage between the two of you. both of you need to talk and come to a agreement that works for the both of you, not one or the other...





    best of luck and blessings.



    My dear dear friend,





    I will answer you honest and true. When the needs of the two are in conflict, you do what is best for the marriage, for it belongs to both of you.





    Love and blessings,


    Lady Morgana
    You need to be more specific. It depends on who is morally correct.





    There is that 1% of situations where both are right, but it's the rare exception.
    men and women are very different that's why his needs are not the same, just meet his needs and yours will work out. hard to explain.

    Is it possible to become a canadian citizen by marriage if i have an oui?

    I know that part of the process of applying for just visitation to canada is some sort of background check reguarding your family as well. my dad has over 6 ouis and i got mine a couple of years ago.Is it possible to become a canadian citizen by marriage if i have an oui?
    I think OUI is the french word for YES as in marriage. Am I understanding Dad has six marriage proposals and you have one proposal ? You both want to know if you can marry a Canadian to gain Canadian citizenship. Too funny. LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Is it possible to become a canadian citizen by marriage if i have an oui?
    what id ouis?
    The criminal charge of driving under the influence probably will not interfere with your application for citizenship. These are sadly very common and while it may cause some questions. A Canadian Embassy can advise you properly of the process. Visit them or inquire online. There is also a Cdn. Goverment website with the forms, etc.





    Hope this helps and good luck.
    actually i'd like 2 immegrate 2 canada !!!





    it's my dream 2 b there %26gt;%26gt;





    it's the second country after libya %26gt;%26gt;

    What is constraint of blood groups for couples before marriage?

    I have heard that some groups treat other groups as anti bodies while pregnancy. is that true?? if wife is of that particular group, iwill that be a problem?What is constraint of blood groups for couples before marriage?
    The risk lies in the mother and foetus, not the father. If mummy is RH- and baby is RH+, mummy will develop antibodies against RH+. The second time mummy carries a RH+ baby, baby gets killed as an foreign particle. To know your RH factor, do a blood test. The +/ - sign following your blood group (A, B, AB, O) will tell you which RH factor you have.What is constraint of blood groups for couples before marriage?
    groups matter wen blood if transfused,but in fertilisation, any two groups can mix, n dat is not d problem... but it's what rhesus factor u have, is what matters...like ur positive, or negative as in A+ or A-... d problem arises wen the husband's a +ve and wife's a -ve: causes haemolytic disease of the new born in the second baby...the first comes out fine...but their is cure for that too, u must ask the doctor... there are other diseases like Thalessimia, for which both the parents have to get their blood checked to make sure the baby doesn't get it...it's very rare, but u never know,,,it's better u ask the doctor about all dis, if ur plannin' on a baby that is!!! good luck dude!!
    My husband and I went through this I am O- and he is A+ When my kids were born they gave them a shot of some sort and I think that's about it. But you would really have to ask my husband I can't remember to much he knows more about it. but yes there can be problems and yes it is true
    Its call the Rh groups of blood --- AB, A, B, and O is universal. They test you and your wife's blood for specific blood types then they usually give the new mom a shot after childbirth so if she gets pregnant again her blood anti-bodies won't attack the second baby because of blood type differences.

    Why my mom has desire to keep me as her little boy by attempt to destroying my marriage?

    Some time I had feeling that my mom is effect by compulsive hoarding disorder, and she want to keep me like any other things.Why my mom has desire to keep me as her little boy by attempt to destroying my marriage?
    IF you're an only child or an only son, your mother might be afraid of one losing her son';little boy'; and the most important she might not have any thing else to do with her life. I don't know how old you are but use me for example. I'm going to be 54 this summer. If I didn't have a 17 year old I would have been on my own again for the past 8 years since my middle daughter moved out at the age of 22. At that point I would have had to make a decision to I hang on to my children to give me some direction and purpose in life or do I move on to the next phase of my life and find another way to give my life meaning not that my children don't need me. I have a daughter who will be in college in about 18 months do I still have my life revolve around my children and not allow her to go away to college by making her feel guilty for having her own life and leaving me or do I say this is great,Now I can concentrate on doing some of the things I've wanted to do I can now do. Things like visit my girlfriend in NC. Taking time to focus on me by working at school and going back into scouting. Things I had to give up becasue she needed me to focus on her and getting her the help that she needs. I love my daughters almost more than anything, But like I tell them I had a life before I had you I'll have a life after you leave. But that's a choice I've made and I'm making plans to have that life so that I'm not dependent on my children to give my life purpose and so that they feel that they are free to form their own lives. That's something that your mother hasn't seemed able to do. What you might have to do is sit down with her and explain that as much as you love her she raised you to be a man and that means having a life seperate from hers. You will always be her son but you won't always be her child. Find out what types of things that she enjoyed before she had children and help her to find ways to get involved with those sort of things again. Also if she has to have a child in her life than tell her to find ways to volunteer with children or if she really interested she can be come a foster parent. She needs to find ways to move on with her life beyond being your ';mommy'; IF your father is still married to her than suggest that he takes her on trips and to do things that they couldn't do when they had young kids. She needs to find a way to refocus her life. IF these things don't help than suggest that she goes to family counseling with you to help her understand that you take her feelings and need seriously but also so you can get help to turn her in another direction with out her feeling rejected.Why my mom has desire to keep me as her little boy by attempt to destroying my marriage?
    I will be marrying a ';mommy's boy'; in two years. I know what you mean, your wife must find it extremely annoying sharing you with her. Although, your wife probably does not want you to disown your own mother, I bet she would like you to sit down with her and discuss how intrusive is affecting you and your new life.

    What should i do search new job or do marriage and let life go?

    i am 33 yrs unmarried software engg. i m in dielema


    that


    all friends are maried only i m left. my financail condition is not good


    and also not get good package.i m in dielama that do the same job and marriage and let the life go.or Search the new job but now is recession is every where and jobs are less .so plz tell me what should i do?What should i do search new job or do marriage and let life go?
    Dude , when there is already recession in market , you should not leave the current job and join any other company , because companies are removing those who are new in the organisation and not the old ones.





    About marriage , you will get married when it is written to happen to you. So just let the life go as it comes.What should i do search new job or do marriage and let life go?
    My dear Vash M, It is late but better to be late than never.You talk about good package Any package will be good if learn how to live within your own income and save something.





    Why do you think about recession? even in nowadays don't people get new jobs and promotions Have confidence in you.





    Don/t leave this job before you get a better and firm opportunity.





    Get married.Let us hope that your selection is satisfactory if not good or excellant.
    hai vas i expect you continue your job. because which in company you do a job that company loss still this is loss if u want leave the company that is not well. you try to how to improve that company. and also you do marriage because your age was 33 .to become late that is not well.this is my suggistion.
    Stay with your job they are hard to get. You will not pick up a marriage partner just like that and if you do I do not think it will last long.
    now its not the right time to leave a job and finding another job is tuf so get married and go on
    do job.........

    What are the rules of engagement when in a marriage counseling session?

    Should we say what is on our mind or guard our words more carefully because of where we are and who we are with? What advice is the counselor most likely to give on this subject?What are the rules of engagement when in a marriage counseling session?
    Rules of Engagement is this.... Honesty is the best policy and the Counselor can not fix what they don't know!! Kind of like when you go to the Doctor.... they can't diagnose you unless you tell him/her your symptoms, right?!! Same thing goes and if you hold back, you are only preventing change in your relationship! Oh, and you might want to also include your ';pet peeves';..... Great ';emotional work'; there! ;)What are the rules of engagement when in a marriage counseling session?
    If you are going to marriage counseling, the point is to be honest. If you guard your words then you are not open to counseling. Counseling is to get to the root of the problem and/or problems. If you guard your words, you are not really saying what's on your mind, and therefore a counselor cannot be effective if they can't get you to open up.
    Counselors are there as the mediator... You should speak you mind, but the BEST way to go into this is to LISTEN! Both parties need to listen %26amp; pay close attention to what the other one is saying. There is NO right or WRONG on either party. There are opinions. You are there to find a compromise. And if you truly love yourself you will want what is best for your marriage. Loving yourself will open up the doors for your spouse to love you in return...
    Rules: You should listen and be respectful. Treat others as you wish to be treated. You should say what is on your mind, otherwise no counselor can help you. Be true to you and true to your spouse. You should decide on your goal for going. What do you hope to accomplish?The counselor is likely to help you define the rules early on. See what happens. Go with the flow. See where it goes.
    F' it. Say what's on your mind. Not saying what's on your mind is probably what got you here in the first place.
    honesty is always a good policy
    Be honest
    You should say what is on your mind. If you guard your words or don't tell the truth, there is no way the marriage counselor can offer ideas or advice.
    It's usually up to the counselor to be somewhat of a moderator. My suggestions are that you are completely honest about your problems, and keep an open mind. There will be times you don't like what the counselor is saying but keep in mind, s/he is an unbiased, trained, professional and is trying to help. Good luck, I hope the counseling helps your relationship.
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  • How does marriage change a relationship?

    I'm not asking for any other reason than just because I am curious. I keep hearing people say (mainly on tv,example: Ricki Lake) that marriage isn't just a continuation of seeing each other and dating but that EVERYTHING changes. Now I know some things will obviously change, and the couple must be committed but I can't really see how getting married isn't just 'the next step', which is what a program I was watching said.How does marriage change a relationship?
    I was with my husband for 8 years before we were married. We never lived together but saw eachother everyday. I am now married to him for 3.5 years and I dont think it changed everything. I think the only thing it did was bring us closer. I love him more than anything in the world. Marriage isn't for everyone, but it is wonderful!!How does marriage change a relationship?
    It does change things but not in a negative way. You become life partners when you get married whereas, when you date, you still keep separate lives. But marriage is work. People tend not to tell you that. You have to care for your marriage to keep it interesting and functional. You also have to be able to ride the ups and the downs that will inevitable come up. If you get lazy or complacent, it is going to go bad REALLY fast. I've been married for almost 17 years and it has not always been easy or fun but we made a commitment and we love each other, so we work it out. If you aren't up to the challenge, then don't get married. It's about more than a fancy wedding and a nice dress.
    I was happy to date and be in a relationship with my now husband, we pretty much lived together beforehand. I considered our marriage way more than a formality, it made be realize how much my husband loves me that he is willing to make a commitment to me for the rest of our lives, we are much more relaxed now that we are married, more trusting (not that trust was ever an issue), It strengthened the relationship I would say
    i don't think marriage should change a relationship only that you have made the commitment to be ONLY with each other, but i wouldn't make a big fuss about it honestly, keep being yourself like you guys have always been and don't let that paper change who you are or your expectations especially if things are going just fine.

    Why do people keep secret even when they are in a good relationship that will lead to marriage?

    U claim u love someone, why then should u keep secrets?Why do people keep secret even when they are in a good relationship that will lead to marriage?
    Good question. I have asked myself this a few times before. The answer is, if you love someone, you shouldn't keep secrets. I think the only reason that a person may feel the need to keep a secret is because they are scared of their partners reaction or the consequences of what they have done. All in all, the way I look at it is if I can't be honest with my partner about it afterward, than I have no business doing it. Hope this helps hun. Good luck.Why do people keep secret even when they are in a good relationship that will lead to marriage?
    u shouldnt if you were truly in love with someone you wouldnt keep secrets at all
    sometimes people can be afraid that because of that secret the relationship might ruin. But if you really love each other you can work it out through mutual understanding, change, forgiveness and once again build trust. without trust and open heart things marriage will not prosper.
    My X wife has lots of good reasons for that.


    In the beginning of our relationship I would have dumped her if I knew she was a D student in school.


    I thought she was smart because she went to a private school.


    I thought she would act in a moral way in a relationship because she went to a catholic school.





    That's why my x had to keep secrets I wouldn't have been with her.
    maybe because they fear that their partner might reject them. but the time will come when they had to or they are ready to reveal their secret.
    If I was in a good relationship and had a secret, I'd keep it just so that I won't lose the one I'm with. That is if that secret would hurt her or the relationship.
    Sometimes telling someone the truth will hurt them unnecessarily. Ignorance is bliss.
    I think everyone has things that they'd never want anyone to know about, even their spouse. God knows I do.
    I don't know. Why are people attracted to others and the last thing in the world they want is for that other person to know they have a crush on them. Why?
    most people lie or keep secrets becuse they are afraid to lose the other person or because they dont wnna hurt your feelings or some people are just fukd up like that its very unfair i believe that you should always tell the hole truth and give your significant other the option of making up there own mind on the situation
    between 2 people-there should never be any secrets


    but what someone did say like 10 yrs ago doesnt need to be discussed, thats the past and its over and those choices were made then.


    trust and respect and honesty is needed for a real and true relationship.
    Depends on what kind of secrets that you are talking about. I have been married 6 years. I keep certian things from my husband, but not anything that will be detrimental to our marriage. But it is important that a woman has things for herself. So when I started seeing a counselor after my 21 yr. old brother passed away I did not tell my husband. I will eventually. I always keep a little bit of money put away that my husband does not know about. That way I can buy him a present or something. I guess it just depends.
    Some things are no one elses business. If it's something in the past, that's where it belongs.
    You shouldn't. That's not love.
    Shame or promises. But should not keep secrets from loved ones.
    you must have your own secrets too,or not?


    for sure, everybody does

    How would marriage affect his Veteran's Benifits?

    My fiance and I want to get married, but we are poor. He is very bright and attends university under his stepdads veterans benifits. He is covered since he is the son of 100% disabled Vietnam vet. He gets $880 a month, would he still get it if we got married or no?How would marriage affect his Veteran's Benifits?
    It has no affect whatsoever.How would marriage affect his Veteran's Benifits?
    He gets these benefits to pay for school. So since he's probably using student loans he is currently pocketing the money to pay for other necessities. He should still receive these Veteran's benefits until he is finished with school. You may want to have him check the website:





    http://www.va.gov





    This site will tell you everything you need to know about it. Also, have him talk to the local Veterans Affairs office, which can also be found on this site.
    I don't know I think you should check it out with his dad I don't want to give you the wrong answer.
    This is likely a question for the financial aid office at his college. Or maybe even the VA.

    If someone was married in a south american country and came to the US is the marriage valid?

    If someone married in colombia and comes to the US and does not register or add the spouse in anything because they seperated does the marriage still count? also, if they got remarried does that mean they have 2 spouses or what? im so confused.. help!If someone was married in a south american country and came to the US is the marriage valid?
    as long as they ain't gay.If someone was married in a south american country and came to the US is the marriage valid?
    If they were married in another country it still counts and a second marriage would be void. However, they would have to have proof of the first marriage and chances are slim it would be brought about to need legal attention.





    Be a good idea to bring any paperwork you have to prove it was a legal marriage. Keep it handy.
    Yes the marriage counts, if they try to remarry they can be charged with the criminal offense of Bigamy.
    If the marriage was legal there, it's legal here. They are still married until they obtain a legal divorce.

    Has anyones marriage been broken up by the game online called Runescape?

    My husband has been playing for almost three years, and it to me is really affecting our marriage. I feel like it has taken him from me but he cant see this. He plays all night long and sleeps most of the day. He dosent help out with the house as much anymore and he is a stay at home dad. I work full time hours and Im tired. My house is a wreck and I feel like my husband is having an affair with a darn computer game!!!Has anyones marriage been broken up by the game online called Runescape?
    i am only 14 so not marriage i am talking about.





    my cousin who is 21 got divorced by his wife(20) because he played rs.


    my aunt's marriage and her job, they got divorced and she got fired, both because of rs.


    And my best friends parents both played rs and fell in 'love' with other online players and broke up, they are still technically married but havent seen each other for i think it is 4 months on friday.

    Religion Regulars: So those against gay marriage, are you basically saying that marriage is all about sex?

    The Bible speaks out against gay sex. Yes. This is a fact.





    But it says nothing about love between two people of the same sex. Are you saying that marriage as a whole is constituted of sex? That the love and commitment takes a backseat?





    Why zone in on the sex?





    Is it because so many fundamental theists seem to get married only for sex? Especially at a young age?Religion Regulars: So those against gay marriage, are you basically saying that marriage is all about sex?
    A very good question....I'm sure they're bound to respond with ';Waah, but they can't have children';, then you'll couter with ';does that mean infertile people shouldn't be allowed to get married?';, then they freak out because they realise the corner they've painted themselves into and then call you a satan worshipping dyke





    :)





    Sorry, I've really been here far too long.Religion Regulars: So those against gay marriage, are you basically saying that marriage is all about sex?
    No, not about sex but about having and raising one's own children.





    Look, I love my football team and I'm committed to supporting my team. Should the government issue me some certificate that affirms my love and commitment? I hope not. The government ought to have no interest in my love and commitment just as it has no interest in my sex life.





    If marriage isn't about children, then all the laws that reference marriage ought to be rewritten to eliminate the reference. The same goes for civil unions and partnerships. No joint filing for tax returns, for example. If you want someone on your health insurance, pay for it. If you want your property to go to your ';spouse/partner/etc'; then make a will. If you want anyone to have a portion of your social security, then sign some papers.
    They can't answer so they misdirect onto gay.





    ';Why zone in on the sex?';


    Cor they're sexually repressed, sexually obsessed; all they can think of is sex ... unlike normal people.


    ~
    As a guy who's been married twice, let me assure you that marriage is about anything BUT sex...%26lt;sniff%26gt;
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    I asked my boyfriend what can he offer me in the relationship %26amp; will he offer me marriage? I asked if it was true love and he said yes it is true love and that he needs a tiny bit more time??? What is he trying to tell me? We talked over the phone and I said what do you need time for? and he said we will talk live about this.People what do you think?What does it mean when your boyfriend says I need a tiny bit more time to marriage?
    Why buy the cow when the milk's free?What does it mean when your boyfriend says I need a tiny bit more time to marriage?
    It depends on his reasons for needing time. If he's waiting to finish school or become financially solvent, that's a good reason. But if he just says, ';I'm not ready';, then that indicates possible commitment issues. How long do you want to wait for him to be ready? Find out what he means by a ';little more time.'; If it's six months to a year, then wait it out. If he's still not ready by then, you should probably move on and look for an older fellow who's more likely to be ready for marriage.
    Just because he loves you, that doesn't mean he's ready for marriage. He may have things to bring up such as families, religion, finances, living together beforehand. Talk to him about it.





    And some overall advice -- important things deserve to be talked about face to face, so make the time and bring them up then.
    Every person has that bug in the back of their head that goes angainst what they want. Maybe he is deciding how he wants to ask you, or he just isn't ready to sign that paper for a license. It is a BIG step to get married. Even if it is to the one you love with all your heart. Just give hi some time, (depending on how long you have been together.) If you have been together for years, then yeah I can see your frustration. Tell him you two can be engaged for however long you want. Engagement is like a trail period for both of you. Sometimes babby steps are better then trying to run full speed.
    hes waiting for a RIGHT TIME. calm down girl, hes not ready for marriage dont be inhurry.
    I don't think he wants to marry you, at least not yet

    How do you know when you're ready for marriage?

    The question is pretty self-explanatory. My boyfriend and I have talked about getting engaged (we have been together for 5 years!) and I was to know what signs there are that you are 100% ready to dive into marriage. I know I love him and I know he loves me and we have already lived together for 1 year. What do you think?How do you know when you're ready for marriage?
    How old are you?





    A person is NEVER 100% ready to get married, or dive into anything this serious.


    You can write up a pros and cons list and guess what, the cons will always be there. Its in spite of those cons are you willing to get married.





    It sounds that you have been together long enough and you've survived the 1 year of living together. This already sounds like a marriage to me.





    Keep in mind that marriage is different than anything else you've done with your boyfriend.





    Bottom line is, you will know you're ready when you feel that it will be the easiest thing to do.


    I remember marrying my husband and it was easier than anything else I've ever done. No butterflies, no cold feet, etc. It was so natural as if why haven't we done it sooner.





    Also keep in mind that marriage is full of twists and turns, so be prepared. It isn't easy and it takes a lot of work, commitment, compromise and communication. It sounds easy, trust me....its not.





    Don't rush into anything if you don't feel ready. He's stuck by your side 5 years, I'd say he's in it for the long run.





    Good luck sweetie and take care.How do you know when you're ready for marriage?
    You've been together long enough, but has it been a steady 5 yrs? Have you lived together? You don't really know someone until you live with them, trust me, I've learned the hard way. (smile) If you two are completely and exclusively obligated and dedicated to one another, I say go for it. But just make sure that you are truly ready, because if you are not, it will end drastically. There are way more expectations in a marriage.
    When the question you just asked does not pop in your mind (really doesn't come up, not it comes up and you ignore it)





    When it seriously does not cross your mind, that is when you are ready. Good luck
    If I could give you a solid answer , with all the divorces out there , I would be a rich man.


    You want to get married? Take your chances like everyone else . There is no way to know if a marriage will last .
    when you're both 40+years of age and are financially independent then you're ready to consider marriage.
    when you stop wondering if you are ready you will be ready.
    I don't think anybody is ever 100% ready for marriage. But I would go through some pre martial counseling, and make sure that you guys have talked through the tough issues.


    There are things that people don't think of bringing up before they get married, but they are so important.


    Like how you two feel about finances, and your views on child raising.


    Now I know you have been together 5 years so you have probably been through a lot. But i'm sure there are things you haven't even thought of discussing before.

    When married couples have true complicated problems in their marriage?

    why do they come here to ask our advice? I would never ask the opinion of strangers, people I've never even met for help about something so serious.





    Just asking.When married couples have true complicated problems in their marriage?
    I think they come here asking for a second opinion after either figuring things out for themselves and reaching a conclusion or asking those in their lives who are close to them. If they come here for anything but validation they are seriously lost.When married couples have true complicated problems in their marriage?
    A lot of people come here just to vent, some to be validated and other are just looking for hope and suggestions. Some people don't have many friends or family to talk to so they come here. There are as many reasons as there are people who come here.
    Sympathy and a shoulder to cry on.


    Shared misery is half the misery!
    because they can't think for themselves.....not trying to be mean, just sayin.

    My second marriage should I go threw with it?

    My first wife was always neat and clean, we was married for 10 yrs and are still friends to some degree. Anyway my fiance likes to collect shoes,purses,clothes etc.. I like a clean house and some form of neatness! I am NOT by no means a clean freak but I HATE clutter! I have talked to her about this, mayby sell some on e bay etc.. She says yes but then does nothing about it. What should I do?My second marriage should I go threw with it?
    get outMy second marriage should I go threw with it?
    Throw them out when she's not home lol kidding..just talk to her straight forward n give her some attitude .
    You need to get this issue sorted out before you get married, because it wont change after you're married...and there will be no excuse for you to complain about the clutter.

    In the book, Pride and Prejudice, what do the characters think on the subject of love and marriage?

    I am writing a literary analysis and need help. Quotes would be helpful.In the book, Pride and Prejudice, what do the characters think on the subject of love and marriage?
    Elizabeth believes that marriage should be based on love. She will not marry for anything other than that.





    Charlotte believe that marriage is for security.In the book, Pride and Prejudice, what do the characters think on the subject of love and marriage?
    i like chocolate milk!!!

    Do you ever get so fed up in your marriage that you start to misbehave out of frustration?

    You mean, like doing stuff just to piss them off?





    I'll admit I can be a passive aggressive little sh1t sometimes...like if my husband and I have had a few drinks the night before and we are both equally hung over and he wants to sleep all the next day....hell yes, I wake up in a pissy mood and start making noise on purpose. If I don't get to sleep why should he, right?Do you ever get so fed up in your marriage that you start to misbehave out of frustration?
    It is normal to react this way. If the relationship itself is stressful and conflicting, then you would usually react to it the exact same way: stressed and fustrated.Do you ever get so fed up in your marriage that you start to misbehave out of frustration?
    Uh Oh. Is this why you asked about flirting on July 4th? Good luck on that path. If you like the continued pain then go ahead. Hope you have a comfy couch. Leads to pain. I was there. led to divorce.





    Think about it.......
    Sure! Who doesn't? That's human nature to act out when we aren't happy. I try to keep it under wraps, but sometimes it creeps out.
    yes but i keep it on the downlow, only i need to know what im up to.
    Yes, my husband always brings out the worst in me.
    Up until now - no. However, I am considering it...
    yes, i am so frustrated that i misbehave with my wife
    Uh, yeah.
    Nope!
    I'll do this Today..............Thanks Road Kill you are super!
    yes i have
    LOL...what have you done now?
    Yes... then I get spanked for being a bad girl.... ;-)
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  • Why do some people think synagogues,churches, mosques can be forced to marry gays if gay marriage is legalized?

    Are they just clueless about the 1st Amendment?Why do some people think synagogues,churches, mosques can be forced to marry gays if gay marriage is legalized?
    The Churches are private institutions. They can refuse to marry anyone they choose.


    Whatever your stance on gay marriage, to sell that the Govt would FORCE Churches to marry people is asinine.


    So, I would say some people are clueless.


    I think most people know this!Why do some people think synagogues,churches, mosques can be forced to marry gays if gay marriage is legalized?
    So, you haven't heard of ';hate speech'; legislation, apparently. If the US C gives protected status to homosexuals, we won't be able to even preach against sexual immorality in our churches without fear of reprisal. There is much history to support this thought, so don't be calling people clueless.

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    I am not clueless about the first amendment in the least. However, the question becomes yet again what constitutes discrimination and does the first amendment give religious organizations the right to discriminate based on sexual preference. You may think it is a non issue, but I would submit that it is a very valid question which would be almost assured of being tested.





    Edit: people keep saying that the question is being asked by clueless people. This is not true. To the best of my knowledge exemptions of this type by churches have never faced strict legal challenge. However, if someone has actual case law to support their position I would like to see it. Whether or not such a challenge would be successful is another matter, but just dismissing the question out of hand based on the first amendment is not sufficient and amounts to dodging the issue.
    When you talk about marry you do not talk about gay and talk about the men and women. The legal protection for gay minority does not mean the change of a social norm which is marry to a kind of personal relationship. You can not oppress any body to do any thing. The legal issue in this case is to protect all social groups to prevent any discrimination.
    Excellent question. All that is really being debated is GOVERNMENT recognition of all marriages equally. Nobody cares if any particular religious group will marry gays or not. It's the Justice of the Peace that's important. Churches, mosques and synagogues are like private clubs that can kick people out for all kinds of discriminatory crap that isn't permissible in the commonly held political part of society. For example, the Mormon church still doesn't allow any women, NONE, to hold the high administrative positions. There are no female apostles there, but hey, those women are free to find a religious practice that respects them or none at all. The government isn't forcing them to change their patriarchal hierarchy. It'd be the same with marriage.





    P.S. Blowbama is a fool. It was government that INTERJECTED ';God'; into the Pledge of Allegiance in the 50's. Originally, it was not there, and it should be removed again because I don't believe the person who wrote it ever gave permission for that word to be used. Also, seperation of church/state never backfires on liberals. If it were truly seperated, gays would be getting married at every courthouse in the nation. Screw religious marriages; they are a joke.
    I assume the answer would be lack of a detailed knowledge of our Constitution and laws, something all too common.





    Although I don't see much of a possibility of successful lawsuits of the type you mention, there is the very real chance of a governmental detriment to religions who don't accept same-sex partners (or homosexuality, at least) on another front. I am thinking of tax exemptions.





    During the civil rights movement, the tax exemption regulations were amended to include a public policy exception - organizations otherwise exempt under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code lost that exemption if they were racially discriminatory - even if it was a church.





    Any legislation that in effect treated sexual orientation the same as race, in terms of anti-discrimination laws would most likely be followed by expanding the public policy exception to churches that were deemed to discriminate against gays. The logic - that the government withdraw tax exemption from private entities (even churches) that discriminate against government-defined categories - would seem to lead inescapably to this result. But the problem would be that by doing so, the government would be discriminating against one set of religious beliefs in relation to another. And, as opposed to racial discrimination, the situation would exist without the kind of national consensus about gay rights that we achieved about the injustice of racial discrimination, and with arguably a far more central tenet of the religion being at issue (since many religious leaders led the abolition and civil rights movements, I don't think much of an argument can be made that discrimination against African-Americans was in any way a fundamental teaching of the Judeo-Christian religions).





    This could be a huge issue.





    Here's an article I just found, and skimmed. I am not familiar with the author or the source, and this article might be biased. but it should give some background, for what it's worth:





    http://www.becketfund.org/files/70e6d.pd鈥?/a>





    PS Another link, from the same group. They obviously have their point of view, but it's at least one side of the story:





    http://www.becketfund.org/files/34a97.pd鈥?/a>
    I have no idea...maybe these people are not married or didn't get married in a church...Look, i had to go through a lot of hoops to get married in the church and then they could have still said no and I couldn't sue them for that and they knew that and I know that...if churches believe homosexuality is a sin they won't and don't have to marry you, just like they don't have to honor your divorce even if you go through the proper legal channels to divorce...I am still married but I know many people who have divorced and the church doesn't see them as divorced and they don't have too and they can excommunicate people from churches!!!!!!!!!!!!!





    And Maggie, either you are really misunderstood what your church was saying about preforming marriages or you were just plian lying about it...
    Holy Cow, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you are sincere here.





    But some of us have been watching the Liberal SP movement and we know that there will be no end to it until Christians are made the silent minority in this nation.





    Let me ask you this: Do you think the Constitution's framers envisioned the 14th amendment would be used for the right to legal abortion? Do you think they envisioned the Establishment Clause of the 1st to be used as a bludgeon against Christianity in the market place?





    Adding (for my fiscal conservative friends who think the RR is wrong): Do you think the Constitution's framers envisioned the Commerce Clause would be used to over-run states' rights?





    Conservatives are about the framers' intent.
    They're deluded. Look, a church/synagogue/mosque would have every right to refuse to allow my me to get married there because I'm not a member of that institution. And I wouldn't WANT to marry in a house of worship anyway because I'm agnostic.








    This is not about religious recognition of their union, but LEGAL representation.





    Maybe they're scared, too.



    Good point. If the government can take away the ten commandments from government buildings and take God out of the Pledge of Allegiance then churches can tell them NO too. Seperation of church and state, its what the liberals keep pushing, now its finally backfiring.
    I have no idea. Religious institutions can discriminate all they want...it is no different from being a private club such as the Boy Scouts. They can refuse to marry whomever they choose. That's the whole point of separation of church and state, but they don't get that concept, either.
    Marriage is a state and legal institution. Churches are unrelated except when individuals want pomp and pagentry for their ceremony.





    Do you have a link for this or are you just pulling this out of the air?
    ANY church can refuse to marry ANY couple...including a ';straight'; one.





    Many will not without the couple first taking a marriage class, if the couple are already living together outside of marriage, if they are not of the same faith.
    Yeah, and what about separation of church and state that they espouse. It seems to only work one way. The government has no business telling the church what the have to do.
    churches were NOT being threatened - that was Mormon propaganda crap
    Gays would call it a hate crime and discrimination. Our government has been distorting our Constitution and our Bill of Rights and I don't trust them. I'm not clueless...I'm realistic
    Pretty much.





    Many are also clueless that many churches and synagogues preform gay marriage as we speak.
    From what I've seen here, they're clueless about just about everything.
    Some churches won't even marry divorced people. These right-wingers are very clueless and some are deliberately so.
    Because they are clueless and misinformed.
    Bingo! They are clueless about the first amendment and the SCOTUS.
    Homophobia overpowers rational thought.
    yes, they are completely clueless and gullible.
    Many of those that vote are not the brightest lights on the Menorah, or the Christmas tree.
    WE ARE NOT CLUELESS! This is reality! Churches were being threatened! My church was looking ahead at possible not performing ANY marriages.





    Looking at it logically, if a church refused to perform a marriage for one couple (because they are gay) but would perform a marriage for someone else, the gay couple would call that discrimination and could sue.





    EDIT: Try to remember that anybody can sue anybody! You may claim that the 1st amendment will stop this type of lawsuit but I am talking reality and I have personal knowledge that my church was holding off on setting up ANY weddings until after the passage of prop 8. I don't care what you say about us being clueless but you are wrong! Churches would have to perform gay marriage if they performed traditional marriages. They could be sued for discrimination!





    The lawsuit against the Boy Scouts is not on point and is different since it's a ';private organization.'; not a church. It involved membership in the BSA.





    BTW, I HAVE READ THE CONSTITUTION!
    Why not ?


    ';Do not judge so that you will not be judged. 鈥淔or in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you. 鈥淲hy do you look at the speck that is in your brother鈥檚 eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? 鈥淥r how can you say to your brother, 鈥楲et me take the speck out of your eye,鈥?and behold, the log is in your own eye? 鈥淵ou hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother鈥檚 eye. ';


    Matthew 7:1-7:5
    I don't remember anyone saying that they believed that? It's obviously untrue, first amendment or not.Even if it were true, I can't imagine any gay couple wanting to get married in a place that only accepts them under duress.

    What are your thought of people living together before marriage?

    If they are engaged and planning to get married withing 6 months of moving in together?What are your thought of people living together before marriage?
    No don't do it if you have self respect. Marriage is a sacred commitment. You shouldn't live in sin.


    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;鈥?/a>What are your thought of people living together before marriage?
    It's up to you. Hubby and I lived together for 6 yrs. before we married. Been married almost 22 years.

    Are there any converted Muslimahs in Saudi seeking for Marriage?

    My family and I have lived in Saudi all our lives and consider it home. I am looking for religious girls for my brothers and unfortunately since there's no exposure or socializing activities here, it has been extremely difficult to seek wives for them. Is there anyone who can help me in this issue? Does anyone know of any religious Pakistanis or converted muslimahs in Saudi who might be considering marriage?Are there any converted Muslimahs in Saudi seeking for Marriage?
    In North America we just fall in love, we dont give a rats a$$ if someone is converted, religious and we dont find spouses for our family members... you need to ask someplace else... not an english forum.Are there any converted Muslimahs in Saudi seeking for Marriage?
    Hey i am muslim but i dont live in saudi...Look type in google singlemuslims and muslims4marrige there are alot of single muslims from Saudi on the website..


    I am from USA sorry i cant help

    Does performing an inter-caste and an inter-religious marriage in Vedic style was illegal?

    This question pertains to Indian Law please.Does performing an inter-caste and an inter-religious marriage in Vedic style was illegal?
    Inter-caste marriage amongst two Hindus is not illegal its absolutely legal %26amp; valid marriage according to Vedic Hindu customs %26amp; rites. Inter-religious marriage between one Hindu %26amp; one non-Hindu according to Vedic Hindu customs %26amp; rites is absolute illegal %26amp; void abnitio marriage unless the non-Hindu converts or embarrasses Hindu religion. The Hindu Marriage Act, 1955 is applicable to only Hindus which include Sikhs, Jains, and Buddhists but does not include Christians, Muslims, and Jews %26amp; Parsis. All Vedic Hindu, Anand Karaj (Sikh Marriages) or any marriages amongst the Jains %26amp; Buddhists are all covered under this enactment. For Inter-religious marriages the enactment applicable in India between two Indians or two Indians in a foreign country or one Indian %26amp; one foreigner in India, is the Special Marriage Act, 1955 where the marriage is preformed before the Marriage Officer/Registrar or in simple words we call it court marriage. For any inter-religious or inter-national marriage between one Indian %26amp; one foreigner in a foreign country the enactment applicable is the Foreign Marriage Act, 1969. Hope all this information will be sufficient for your knowledge.Does performing an inter-caste and an inter-religious marriage in Vedic style was illegal?
    What exactly do you mean ? are you asking about marriages in ancient India 1000 years back ? then it was allowed for anyone to marry any person of his/her choice.





    There is a type of marriage practice in India (Hindus) that is called Vedic marriage and even this doesent stop inter-caste or inter-religious marriages, you only need to know the janam kundli of bride and groom.





    Caste based marriages are more of a social development specifically coming out of status and financial as well as security needs. These evolved during the periods of turmoil when India was repeatedly under invasion and the Hindu social fabric was attacked and torn repeatedly.
    what exactly do u want to know. WAS it illegal or IS it illegal.


    if you are talking about the present time, it is not illegal. if you are talking about ancient times, then read the vedas.,
    As far as I know LAW encourages inter-religious marriages.





    Don't live upto the religion. Live upto what your HEART says.
    caste was not a consideration . it is latter development of tribes.


    in mahabharat arjun married dropadi disguised as brahaman and not as kshatriya.


    The caste system was not from birth but as one developed . To enforce dynasty caste system was dubiously intruded.

    If you are republican and divorced how do you justify standing in judgment on the gay marriage issue?

    You have destroyed what marriage is. Im gay and i believe that if you get married you are to be married to that person for life. And if you think that YOU have some special connection with god that justifies your reason for divorce you are very wrong. You dont its all down in black and white its called the bible read it some time.If you are republican and divorced how do you justify standing in judgment on the gay marriage issue?
    First of all how dare you judge. Here you are crying about you being judged and you go off and do the same thing.....





    First of all I am a divorced republican. And who are you to say that just because I am Republican that I am against gay marriage. I'm not against it. Not all of us believe in all the little things that Republicans stand for. Yes I do believe in most of them. But I also believe in love and if 2 men want to be together that is fine with me.....





    And I cant believe that you bring the bible in to this. You tell us to read it. Why don't you try reading it because in Peter it clearly says that a man being with another man is sin full. Also read up what it said about marriage and divorce. For one thing it said that a man should not take a wife because he should live alone. But if he going to live in sin its better that he marry.





    And on divorce, It said that a man can leave his wife with divorce but the wife can not leave her man. But if the man divorces his wife she can remarry. Holy Crap. That is crazy huh.





    So you need to chill out dude. Just because I am divorced because my husband left me for a fat girl. and I am republican doesn't mean that I am agents you marrying the man you love.....





    P.S. I love gay people. It is not the lifestyle i want for myself, but most of my friends are gay.





    The Gay loving Divorce RepublicanIf you are republican and divorced how do you justify standing in judgment on the gay marriage issue?
    Awh well thank you. Yep maybe one day i will realize that but right now I am stuck in my ways.





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    i read a funny t shirt that says 9 out of 10 conservative divorcees disapprove of gay marriage. [its funny cause they are such big hypocrites!] here is a link below that shows what hypocrites they are!
    1) marriage is a legal/social contract. A religious marriage service is a ceremony that celebrates the legal/social contract in a manner of ones own choosing. People get confused and think they have the right to dictate morals for others in the name of their personal religion. They should learn to mind their own business and let others be.





    2) The argument that the bible forbids gay marriage or that the government sanctions a lifestyle is the EXACT same argument used to stop and legislate against mixed religion and mixed racial marriages. It was not long ago that these common and not considered normal practices were against the law in many states. It was also legal at the time to keep races out of neighborhoods or hang signs on restaurants, clubs, restrooms that, on the nice side said whites only, on the vile side said no *******, Jews or dogs allowed. It is only a matter of time before same sex marriage is dealt with in the supreme court as a civil liberty issue and made the law of the land. Why, because it is what our country does, it serves up equality and justice and the right way to present liberty to citizens in the end. The current situation is only a moment of time and shall pass like the other moments of bias and prejudice in our countries history.
    The gov't sanctions sexual lifestyle all the time. I found out the other day that having anal sex is illegal is SC. So, if I happen to be doing my wife in the pooper, the cops can come kick in our door and arrest us. That's freakin' nuts.





    I don't understand how so many people crap all over their marriage vows, the church that they gave them in, and their religion's representative who witnessed them. ';Til death do us part'; seems pretty cut and dry to me. Someone who has divorced certainly shouldn't judge someone else from a religious standpoint. One day they're passing judgment on gay marriage, the next they're playing footsie under an airport bathroom stall.
    What is the issue. You have exactly the same marriage rights as any republican. You want special privileges because you are gay. Well, should we extend these privileges to everyone that wants them say the Mormons who believe in polygamy. Also, do we extend the rights of a pedophile because he/she was born that way. It boils down to you want special rights for you group only and that makes you pretty self centered. You owe the republicans and apology.
    A Fraud by any other name is a Fraud. I am a divorced Republican I married a Fraud
    Maybe they're trying to help you out- they think homosexuality is a sin, so they force you to commit another one by also having sex outside of marriage. Double negatives make it a wash?





    Sure, it's a stretch, but not as unreasonable as the thought that gay dudes calling themselves married might somehow affect anyone else's home life.
    oh so divorce is destroying what marriage is by your logic? the divorce itself destroys it? or the financial hardships, cheating etc...??? pathetic logic at best.





    and what does gay marriage have to do with divorce?





    the FACT is ';gay marriage'; is the GOVERNMENT SANCTIONING A SEXUAL LIFESTYLE.





    if the government cannot sancation a RELIGION how can it sanction sex acts and LEGITIMIZE Those acts by LEGALLY RECOGNIZING IT when MOST of the American population continues VOTE AGAINST IT?????





    so by your logic someone who gets in a car accident can't be against car accidents because it happened to them or it was their fault?


    poor logic, pathetic critical thinking skills. go back to 2nd grade billy.





    justin: savage isn't gay. don't put your perversion onto others. he's married with children.





    thanks for the hate billy! when you take things in *** backwards you see life *** backwards. right billy?
    I would think true Cons would follow their own mantra and keep government out of a person's personal life as much as possible.
    If you would read it you would find that adultery is an accepteble reson to get a divorce.


    The Bible also says that Homosexuals are an abomination to the Lord.
    I am a republican and I don't stand in judgement of anyone. Not my job. The old testament frowns upon divorce in most cases. The old testament is before Christ died for us. Things are different in that part of the Bible. Also, homosexuality is against what the Bible says. I think you are the only person judging. If you are gay, married, divorced, straight, liberal, conservative, whatever, more power to you. It takes all kinds to make this great world go round.

    If you are Christian, did you practice waiting for marriage to be intimate?

    I do believe in Jesus very much. I particiapted in being intimate before marriage because we are in love and am hoping we get married, I feel very sad about this how can I stop without losing this man?If you are Christian, did you practice waiting for marriage to be intimate?
    We both waited and are very happy we did (happily married %26gt; 20 years now and no worries about affairs or divorce). If you've already had sex with the guy though, I'd suggest being faithful to him and not have sex outside that relationship. You're already basically ';married'; to him by virtue of that relationship. You should ';make it legal';. God will not condemn you for this.If you are Christian, did you practice waiting for marriage to be intimate?
    Yes, my husband and I waited until marriage.





    Yes, you can stop this behavior and keep the guy, but he has to be as committed to staying pure before marriage than you are. Otherwise, you don't have a choice.





    If he gives up you in preference to sex, he's not good husband material. A good husband will ALWAYS give up sex (with any cute chick that happens along) in favor of his wife's needs.
    Yes, I did, and I'm glad I did. I was able to give my husband a gift nobody could take away.
    I'm waiting.
    yes i am waiting i love the lord














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    Do you feel loved, romanced, do you have fun or is it all boring and hard?Is your marriage what you would like it to be?
    Oh man...marriage so far has exceeded my expectations. It isn't so much full of romance in the idealized sense of the word, but it is brimming with love and laughter-and that's the best kind. :)





    Every marriage has its baggage, but if both people are in it 100%, you can make it really amazing.Is your marriage what you would like it to be?
    I am very happy in my marriage....we are not perfect, well he is not perfect..lol..jk...He's wonderful, and I feel so blessed to have him..

    Is your marriage what you would like it to be?

    Do you feel loved, romanced, do you have fun or is it all boring and hard?Is your marriage what you would like it to be?
    Oh man...marriage so far has exceeded my expectations. It isn't so much full of romance in the idealized sense of the word, but it is brimming with love and laughter-and that's the best kind. :)





    Every marriage has its baggage, but if both people are in it 100%, you can make it really amazing.Is your marriage what you would like it to be?
    I am very happy in my marriage....we are not perfect, well he is not perfect..lol..jk...He's wonderful, and I feel so blessed to have him..

    In what specific, direct and tangible way would gay marriage affect your life?

    Not asking for biblical interpretation or a lecture on anyone's personal belief system, just honestly asking how it would affect you if it were legal in every state.In what specific, direct and tangible way would gay marriage affect your life?
    It wouldn't. At all.In what specific, direct and tangible way would gay marriage affect your life?
    if it was a push for legalization of ';civil unions'; instead of ';gay marriage'; there would be very little debate. If you legalize a civil union and give them the same rights as a ';married'; couple, what would the problem be? The debate is mainly over changing the definition of a word. It is a foolish argument.

    How would I go about sending a same-sex marriage bill to the capital here?

    Minnesota, if that is needed to know. (Not necessarily sending, but like, making an effort for it to be brought up in the legislature, etc. Or I guess if I could write one, but I doubt it.)





    Thanks in advance.How would I go about sending a same-sex marriage bill to the capital here?
    The usual manner for sending a bill to the capitol is that it first has to be passed by the legislature. In order to get that done you will need to find a representative or a senator to sponsor the bill for you.How would I go about sending a same-sex marriage bill to the capital here?
    Get elected to the state legislature.





    Failing that, try working with the person currently holding that job.
    Hire an attorney and do some research. I am all for gay marriages if they can stay together until death do they part.

    How do Obama and MCCain feel about the GAY MARRIAGE ruling in Connecticut?

    Link?





    Have they held a press conference?How do Obama and MCCain feel about the GAY MARRIAGE ruling in Connecticut?
    Obama has always said that it's up to the individual states to define their own marriage laws.





    McCain opposes it completely. How do Obama and MCCain feel about the GAY MARRIAGE ruling in Connecticut?
    ';Feel'; is a nebulous word to use here, but both McCain and Obama were pro gay rights, pro-gay privileges for gay partners.... and both were opposed to gay-marriage -- an institution that is not a government concern. Marriage is a spiritual and religious issue and thus a separation of church and state should apply Obama and McCain also believe this pretty much the same. Governments have extended privileges to couples primarily to ensure that babies are born to provide the next generation of taxpayers, not to promote ';marriage'; for its own sake to make gay people feel bad. Gay people can declare themselves married and any church that wants to can bless them, but the State has no interest in promoting this divisive issue which can only further rip this nation up for no good purpose.
    They will both have no comment on it. It is too close to the election to get into the gay marriage hot potato. Many federal politicians have taken the chicken stance of 'let the states decide.'





    Edit: As a point of constitutional fact there is no federal mandate that forbids two people of the same gender to be married. There is a implied theme in the constitution and the declaration of independence that people must be allowed gain happiness and liberty.
    As a former citizen of Connecticut, I could care less. I'm sure that neither of the candidates care either. They are both personally against it, but I believe they feel it is up to the states. McCain is not against Civil Union.
    Gay marriage isn't an issue most voters are focused on for this election. I wouldn't expect either to make a big fuss. McCain is against gay marriage full stop. Obama is against gay marriage but would recognize states that provide civil unions.
    Who the hell cares? We're facing an extremely serious financial crisis that can destabilize the entire world, causing enormous suffering and political upheaval. In addition, we're embroiled in two wars that are going badly.
    Obama has always been pro gay rights.
    During the Vice Presidential Debate Joe Biden said OBAMA/BIDEN they do not support GAY MARRIAGE, but he was trying to add some other stuff. Where as Sarah Palin straight up told you McCain/Palin do not.
    I am sure they are both sickened like most in America since they have both said they are against it.

    Why do republicans care so much about banning gay marriage?

    My theory is that if they're worried that much about it, they must have some gay issues themselves that they haven't dealt with.





    I was going to vote for McCain until I heard about Palin's ridiculous federal marriage amendment.





    Now I'm voting for Obama because of this nonsense, our government was not based on Christianity.Why do republicans care so much about banning gay marriage?
    B/c the right wing are a bunch of fanatical hate filled closeminded a**holes. They are NOT christians Jesus would have nothing to do with them. And thank god their riegn is coming to an end





    The founding fathers were NOT Christians they were diests. get your facts straightWhy do republicans care so much about banning gay marriage?
    ';Now I'm voting for Obama because of this nonsense, our government was not based on Christianity.';





    It wasn't? Our bills don't say ';In God We Trust';? Our National Anthem (The long version) doesn't say ';In God We Trust';? The Pledge of Allegiance doesn't say ';One nation, Under God';?





    You changed your vote because of a minor issue? You sound a bit confused and too much like you're on the ';Let's ignore the crises and focus on the minor social issues'; band wagon.





    Good luck to digging your head from the sand, my friend.











    EDIT: ';Christ. Drives me crazy; I wouldn't be fighting you in the first place if your people hadn't come in and attacked us for loving whom we wish to love.';





    This is why this is such a big issue. Gays are not a ';people'; they are a sub-culture, if you're going to label them. You make the gay population sound like another race. You want to be treated equal but you seperate yourself from the ';greater whole'; by saying ';your people'; and ';us';? You just made yourself seem inferior and that is why you are driven crazy! To see yourself as inferior is to make backward progress.





    Also, you say things against the bible, yet open that statement which I quoted with ';Christ';. Contradiction, much?





    I am not against gay marriage or love or any of the likes. I just call them how I see them.
    (Fancy meeting you here...)





    I almost forgot: they care about it because Bible tells them so, despite the fact that it's a book, written by men and not by God.





    10 minutes late: your name speaks for the rate at which you update. Can you say, ';Lesser of two evils?'; McCain would probably have us all placed in gay correction camps, which is precisely what Obama wouldn't be doing.





    And for everyone else here: Get your noses out of my personal life, and out of stuff that doesn't affect you. Stop trying to compare same-sex marriage with beastiality. Stop trying to protect the ';religious'; institution from us, because we're not the threat (divorce is, if anything else) and because you let atheists marry anyway. Stop being bigots, stop pretending that you are above me and my people instead of being equal to us, stop the ridiculous ';hate the sin'; crap (how different is that from ';separate but equal';?).





    Christ. Drives me crazy; I wouldn't be fighting you in the first place if your people hadn't come in and attacked us for loving whom we wish to love.





    And finally: what the hell is the 1st Amendment for, then, if the country and its Constitution were based on religion? Black and white thinking, indeed...
    Well, for your information, this government WAS formed on Christian principles that were derived from the bible! Read your history!





    Secondly, gay marriage is the dessicration and degrading of the REAL institution and sanctity of marriage, which is between one man and one woman, as God has ordained! Read the bible! The federal marraige amendment is NOT ridiculous because McCain wants to protect what a real marriage is, which is as I said, between one man and one woman! I'm all for it! I guess you have no sense of morals, eh? I'm not surprised, considering how much our society has gone so far away from the foundations of the bible and thus, going in the same direction that Sodom and Gomorrah did: no morals!





    Edit: To High-Strung Guitarist: For your information, the bible was written by holy men of God: the scribes, the prophets and the apostles! They were given direction and guidance by the indwelling of God's Holy Spirit to write the bible, so the bible WAS written by God through those men!!
    Marriage is a term from religion. (remember separation of church and state?) The states hijacked the term. Since the term has meaning in churches, many republicans and many democrats would rather keep that definition and select a new term for the state to use (I.E. Civil Union).





    And yes Ob is against gay marriage as well. I heard him say it. Some of you ob supporters are so blinded by your messiah worship. You don't know what you are talking about. In his own words...see the link.








    HE IS AGAINST GAY MARRIAGE BUT FOR CIVIL UNIONS LIKE MANY DEMS AND REPS!!! GO VOTE AND DON';T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. SHEEP!!!





    By the way...Bush didn't give the right to states...The Constitution did
    if you are voting for Obama because you think he will allow gay marriage, you are wrong. Palin's views will not have an effect on policy. Each state has the option to allow gay marriage, not the government. President bush gave the powers to each individual state.It is not the governments place to decide which is best for each state.
    They don't. An internal poll by the RNC showed that only %30 of republicans even give a crap about gay marriage. But the media loves to focus on the fringe religious part of the republican party in order to make it look bad.





    And, you're going to vote for someone based on this? why? you do know that no president has the power to even present an amendment, let alone get it passed, right? so who cares what they think about it if they cant' make it happen? Don't jump into the fire just because you're cold.
    Our government was based on Christianity, sorry to inform you of that. Our government was based on Christianity by a bunch of men drinking ale.





    Congress and the Supreme court are the only ones that can make that amendment, the president can veto if he'd like...yet it can always keep coming back through congress.





    Palin could say whatever she likes, along with McCain, Obama, and Biden, yet it all points to congress.
    Actaually a lot of the consitution was based on christianity. Think about the pledge of alligance and what our money says ';In God we trust';. The end is near and at that time things will become clear to those who are blind to the TRUTH. Those against gay marriage care because God created marriage to be between a man and a woman and they want to do their part to preserve that union. I do not hate gay people, I just have to do my part to protect what is right. It's about morals.





    The greatest gift that God gave us was to make our own decisions. We are responsible for making the right decisions as we will answer to God one day.
    ';My theory is that if they're worried that much about it, they must have some gay issues themselves that they haven't dealt with.';





    Lol I was gonna say that before I even eventered the thread... its to shift the focus of their homosexuality...or fear of it possibly.





    Like I've always said...I fear lesbians because they're hot, and are better at picking up chicks than I am... :(
    Newsflash... Obama is against gay marriage as well.





    Seriously, no matter what Palin says, the Republican party will not outright BAN gay marriage. McCain is too left to do that.





    Your lifestyle choice is very safe with the current republican candidate. I'd focus more on which is better for our nation as a whole, and that's still McCain. Good luck to you.
    Whoa!!! you changed your vote because of a gay issue?





    Don't you know there are more pressing issues like taxes, socialism, and the fact that Biden just invited a national crisis to occur within 6 months of an Obama administration?





    The gay thing? who cares?






    ho come on you were always voting for Obama We don't care what you do in your own home We don't care that you love gladiator movies I equate it to eating liver I hated it can't stand the smell it makes me sick But eat all you want but don't do it in front of me
    i think it has to do with marriage between a man and a woman.


    If 2 men can marry, why not a pet and human, or brother and sister, or 4 people.....where does it end????
    Republicans sure are all about removing rights from people which have no effect on their own lives what so ever. Such a shame.
    I don't they're happy unless they are stepping on someone's rights.
    ObAmA Is NOT aGaInEst GaY MArrIaGe!!! He FoR It. ObaMa 2008
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    I forgot to to let home office know my marriage visa expired 6 months ago.i want to apolozise to home office.I have passed my Life in the uk test.Im married to british citizen and i have 20 months old child with him.please help writing a letter to them.I forgot to to let home office know my marriage visa expired 6 months ago.i want to apolozise?
    Writing a letter is probably not the answer and an apology is of no benefit. You need proper advice so go and see your local Citizens Advice Bureau and ask for help.I forgot to to let home office know my marriage visa expired 6 months ago.i want to apolozise?
    Kiss goodbye to your benefits, scrounger. With grammar like that I suppose you don't work.
    if you do write a letter. get ready to pack your bags and say bye bye!!!
    you brought tears to my eyes I looked around and it was the dam onions to close to me take care we'll miss you
    contact your local Citizens Advice Bureau ,you will find out where they are in the Yellow Pages phone book or look on the internet-they will be able to help you .Ignore people making nasty comments-good luck. (their service is free )
    lol...bye %26lt;waves%26gt;
    You might want to reconsider your desire to stay in the UK given that its home to the shower of ignorants who've responded to your question so pleasantly.





    Bill is right - Citizens Advice Bureau is your best bet.
    Yes you need to go to the Citizen Advice Bureau.


    They will be able to help you,bring your official documents (i.e. passport,letters from Home Office,marriage certificate,and so on) for them to see.


    Good luck.

    How is marriage with no kids?

    I mean my hubby and I don't want kids at all and I just want to see if there are any benefits to that.How is marriage with no kids?
    It depends on what lifestyle you are interested in. If you two have already settled down and he's basically the guy who stays in his house and only goes out to work, then that will be a problem, especially for the wife.





    It woud be boring to have a settled down life, but if you two are travellers and love going out and only staying home (or residence) just to sleep, then it's the perfect life for no-child couples. When done right, that life would be much funner considering that a settled down life with children would cause couples to sacrifice their lives (and in many cases their love also) for their kids.How is marriage with no kids?
    i guess there would be plenty. in case you got divorced in the future there wouldn't be no custody problems. in my sociology class there was a book where it said that when the couple in a marriage don't have kids BY CHOICE they tend to have happier marriages because they spend more time to themselves. you guys would have no headaches because of teenage kids and their problems. there are plenty of benefits.
    i think its a good thing when people who dont want children dont have them. while i think children are enriching, i would have to say that people who are not sure about having babies shouldnt have them because they wont put as much effort into raising them. sorry it doesnt answer your question but i just want to say i think thats a really smart choice and good luck to you both
    i knew a girl who didnt want kids. she drove a mustang in summer and a nice suv in winter. they just basically did their own things with their friends and had money to vacation and buy nice things together. basically it's like dating except you have someone to come home to EVERY night.
    How old are you? You might actually change your mind as you get older. i found that marriage was great without kids for the first five years. It is wonderful when you're young and in love and free. Later though, we both wanted more.
    You would have more money for yourselves. Trips, Vacations, etc. But having kids is such a wonderful thing. When you bring something so beautiful into the world, it feels good.
    well you might not want them now but how about later? what if your 60 and you get a divorce or god forbid your hubby dies? wouldnt you want grandchildren to make you smile with their little jokes or sneaky moves?
    Many benefits...go where you want, when you want, for as long as you want. Great if you BOTH don't want kids.
    you will have a lot more money and time to travel and explore your own interests!





    I say to each his own! carpe diem! enjoy your life together!





    best of luck to you both!
    um... no kids lol, nuff said
    more money..

    How could Homosexuals possibly screw up the sanctity of marriage any worse?

    than heterosexuals?





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    I'm reading ';The Appeal'; by John Grisham. Very interesting book. Bascially this question was from one lawyer to another lawyer concerning gay marriage in the State of Mississippi. I thought it would make a good question to ask? ( ^ _ ^ ) What say you?How could Homosexuals possibly screw up the sanctity of marriage any worse?
    It is important in the beginning to define our vocabulary. The term ’homosexuality’ as it is used and understood today is not applicable to Greek antiquity for three reasons: First of all, most Greeks were bisexual. Second, homosexuality and 'gay' as sexual identities are recent developments, emerging only in the 2Oth Century (our idea of what it means to be gay or a homosexual has largely been influenced by recent gay activism and the emergence of gay rights on the cultural landscape). Last, and most important of all, passion and erotic love between two adult men (the model for modern gay relationships), was generally considered unusual and held up to ridicule. Homosexual love in Greece was love between a man and a boy.


    The Greek word for homosexual love between a man and a youth was paiderastia (hence pederasty), derived from pais, boy, and eran, to love, meaning emotional and sensual affection for a pais. A common synonym for beloved boys in Greek writings is ta paidika, ’the boyish.’ The youths who attracted men’s attentions ranged in age from adolescence to early manhood, as can be seen from the images that have come down to us on Greek pottery and sculpture. Relationships with overly young boys were frowned upon then as they are now (though some Greek beloved youths would have fallen below the age of consent in many modern countries), one mark of a beloved ripe for a man’s attentions being the ability to “think for himself”.





    The Greek male was expected not only to marry and raise children, but also to be available for friendship and homosexual love affairs with worthy youths, not to the exclusion of marriage but as its necessary complement. Thus his destined path through the garden of love would begin some time in adolescence when the boy was courted by many men and would choose one to be his lover. This homosexual relationship would continue till early adulthood when he'd begin courting and winning the love of a deserving youth of his own. Then it would expand to include taking a wife and having children. (Of course there were countless variations on this theme, some noble and others sordid, just as it is with us today in our love life.) This variety of life was reflected in the ‘deep well of time’, the ancient sacred myths on which were based the archetypes of human life and self-knowledge.





    That a man should be attracted both to lovely women and to beardless boys was seen as natural and normal. It was also accepted that some men would lean more towards one, and some towards the other. However, young males were considered the fair sex par excellence; the Greek ideal of beauty was embodied by the young man, a fact evident in all of Greek literature and art from first beginnings to last examples. Literary disputes examined the question of which kind of love was preferable, and often the love of youths won out. Apart from purely scientific texts there was hardly a work in which juvenile male beauty was not praised, from casual asides to richly embroidered descriptions. The extent to which the youth was the paragon of beauty can be seen in the arts, where even girls were often represented with boyish traits. Furthermore,a great deal of pottery depicting youths has been found, often inscribed with the epithet kalos (the masculine form of beautiful), while pictures of girls and the feminine kale are rare. Even he great sculptor Phidias payed homage to his beloved by carving kalos Pantarkes on a finger of the colossal statue of Zeus at Olympia.





    Besides their physical charm, boys were also valued for their minds, held to be especially capable of reason and debate and therefore meant to be cultivated. Thus homosexual love was the driving force not only of the sexual but also of the pedagogic side of Greek pederasty. Ancient culture was male oriented through and through. To the Greek man, his spouse counted mostly as mother of his children and keeper of his household. With very few exceptions women (and wives in particular) were excluded from intellectual and public life. Girls were considered capable only of chitchat, and unworthy of education. Only hetairas, a class of entertainers / courtesans who were not charged with domestic responsibilities, could enter the political and philosophic arenas. Thus, the intellectual development of most girls was neglected, while the right upbringing of boys was given the highest importance.





    The aim of the Greek educational system, the paideia, was summed up by the words: kalos k’agathos, ’beautiful and good’, meaning that beauty of body and goodness of soul were the essence of human i.e. male perfection. Homosexual love between men and youths striving together to develop these virtues was seen as the most effective way to cultivate that ideal. It was said that even Herakles (Hercules) could perform his mighty deeds with more ease when his beloved Iolaos watched him. It was in commemoration of their union that the Iolaeia, gymnastic and equestrian games, werewere celebrated in Thebes.


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    daveHow could Homosexuals possibly screw up the sanctity of marriage any worse?
    Yes you have that right, thank you and take care


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    The institution of marriage is a construct for community order. Mankind is challenged by gender to survive. Procreation requires the union of a female and male human. An asocial society where a generation preferred to alter the configuration to same sex pairs would eliminate mankind as we know it.





    So essentially Homosexuals can undermine the survival of mankind.
    I like John Grisham...I would be interested to see his point of view on the topic. I might research the book.





    You asked for my opinion...Marriage has been sanctified throughout the ages of time for over 3000 years of recorded history. Homosexuality has never been sanctioned but seen as an aboration an anomaly in what ever society it has entered. It is usually associated with decadence and a subsequent moral failing of that culture.





    I submit this only as my opinion and what I truly believe is reflected in the Bible.





    In Yahoo answers you are sure to get positive and negative views to your question...so you should not be really surprised and my comment....thank you for this opportunity to express my opinion.
    It's not that they'd screw up the sanctity of marriage people object to; it's that they exist and wish to be treated equally, and marriage rights will help this happen.
    I just don't get why gay marraige is anyone elses business or concern. Theres so many REAL problems for us to focus all our energy on like war, our childrens futures/education etc etc etc....and people are going to worry about gay/lesbian marraige? Thats so stupid!
    Gay marriage won't change anything for straight marriage. It is legal in Canada and the world seems to keep moving.
    No. Both homosexuals and heterosexuals screw up marriage the same amount.
    It does not but relgious people are against gay people and use that as an excuse.
    They could start showing up at weddings and shooting people. I imagine that would make it worse.
    It would make the haters '; come out of the closet ';
    The institution of marriage has changed greatly over the past few thousand years. Only in the past century have women been free people with human rights. In the Bible marriage was the sale of a woman by her father to her husband, except when the Israelites were taking women captured during war as their brides. They could do that, because polygamy was common, men took concubines, and also had children by their female slaves and servants.





    Why should gay people get to weasel out of good stuff like divorce by having extralegal status? I understand Ted Haggart and his wife are going to be on Divorce Court very soon. I realize we're talking entertainment, but ought not marriage be too sacred for that? ∠°)