When is gay marriage a fundamental right?

I have a right to have sex with as many women as I want, that doesn't make it right.When is gay marriage a fundamental right?
Any kind of marriage is not listed in the Constitution as a ';fundamental right.';





There are many things that are not rights, even if they do not afford equal protection. I do not have the right, as a male, to enter any public rest room that has ';women'; on the door. Yet women can.





I do not have the right to go into a women's homeless shelter, although women can. Some things can be ';equal'; but separate.When is gay marriage a fundamental right?
Why is it not right? Based upon what law or rule? I know of no law or rule which says it is illegal or wrong for you to have consenting sex with any other adult, no matter their gender. Show me how it's wrong?





According to the Charters of Freedom, we each have the right to pursue happiness, so long as it does no real harm to another or deprive them of those same rights. We also, according to one of those Charters (The US Constitution) have the right to be equal before the law. If you have the right to marry the person you love, then that same right exists for other people, within the bounds of other basic laws (like the ideas of consent, for example). Rights are about equality, and it's one of the most important fundamentals of our system of government. The history of this Republic has been the history or growing equality. Remember that when this republic was first formed, only white male land owners had rights. Only they had a voice. Then, all white males, whether land-owning or not were granted the rights and responsibilities of citizenship. Then, all males. Then, all Americans. Then, the voting age was lowered to 18, federally. Do you see how, in each case, the demands of our fundamental principals of equality forced inclusion of people who previously had not been equal under the law? Until 1929, remember, women were, essentially property, and could not speak in court, and were passed by contract (marriage) from being their father's property to their husband's.





It's essentially the same thing now. American citizens have the right to marry the consenting adult of their choice EXCEPT if that consenting adult is of the same gender. This is discrimination, pure and simple, and is unconstitutional. Such discrimination may be the law, currently, but to use your turn of phrase, it doesn't make it right.
The right for citizens to enter into contracts has always been considered a fundamental right. And all citizens should have the same contractual rights unless a legitimate limitation exists. Those limitations are few: Minors and the mentally infirm are not allowed to contract because of limited capacity. There are hardly any other limitations.





Marriage is both a religious ceremony and a contract. As a religious ceremony, I don't have any say in it, nor do I want to have a say in it. Someone else's religious beliefs are not mine and I want no part of someone else's belief system.





But as a contractual issue, I certainly do see it as a fundamental right.
Wrong. Whatever consenting adults do behind closed doors is their business and is NOT illegal. It is ok in the eyes of the government.





Likewise, if 2 people want to commit to each other regardless of sex, then they have a right to do so. And since the nation is built on a separation of church and state they don't need ';God's'; approval either.





Interesting thing. Marriage is actually not religious at all. ATHEISTS get married. There is a problem with the word ';marriage';. It is religious in origin. In religions marriage is this beautiful union, etc.





Well it is. But the marriage in the legal sense is simply when the government recognizes the relationship, thereby granting rights that only 2 people as close as intimacy can share.





There is no reason why same sex couples cannot get married. Marriage is simply a contract between 2 people. Since the government does not discriminate on the basis of sex, 2 men or 2 women is the same in the government's eyes.
Americans just love to worry about other peoples business. Then they wake up one day and wonder why they just got laid off and the economy is so bad. Just keep involving yourselves in other people's business while foreign countries take over with their brands and companies.





You dont support gay marriage because it's against God. What if those people dont believe in God? What if they dont even know who he is? What if theyre just some athiests that like it up the butt?





And what do you want from gay people? Do you want them to change the way they are? Go hide away and be ashamed? What did we learn from slavery?





Maybe you people fighting against gay marriage should go hide away. You are the ones destroying the world by telling people how to live. Maybe some people dont believe in your religion. What if the person who wrote the bible used Steve instead of Eve?





I can have sex with as many women as I want because that many women want to have sex with me. Im not going to stop just because a book said its bad. What if I dont care about what the book says and I just want to rock it all day everyday? You cant just throw a book at my face and tell me how to live.





You cant stop me from banging random women I meet at clubs and you cant stop gay marriage. And I love the fact that you try so hard but cant do anything to stop whats going to happen. So fight on.
technically, marriage (in the sense that one gets a marriage license to make the marriage recognized for tax purposes) of any sort isnt a right, but really just a way of going about marrying somebody. The idea that everybody should get a marriage license for any reason is the basis of the gay rights movement--equal treatment under the law.
In 1967, the Supreme Court of the United States said ';Marriage is one of the basic civil rights of man, fundamental to our very existence and survival. To deny this fundamental freedom... is surely to deprive all the State's citizens of liberty without due process of law. The Fourteenth Amendment requires that the freedom of choice to marry not be restricted... Under our Constitution, the freedom to marry, or not marry, a person... resides with the individual and cannot be infringed by the State.';
why is it such a big deal? If we don't approve of the marriage in question, don't hang out with the couple.I guess the fundamentalist Christian sector argue it represents the decline of civic morality, but surely the dead people in wars all over the world and our obsession with porn reflect that more than a couple of people wanting to get hitched. I think marriage shouldn't be classed as a right so much as a freedom. (oh the irony!)
How can in one question you talk about being oppressed by 'the man' and in another question talk about how gays shouldn't have rights?





You need to crack open a history book and learn about civil liberties before you start asking ridiculous questions here. I'm glad people voting on this issue are filled with hate and are totally oblivious to facts.
because I will never marry a man and as it stands so far I have no right to marry the person I love, unless I travel outside my State





big DIFFERENCE from having sex with numerous people





I want to marry one person only. And she is not a man.


I have the right to ';pursue happiness';, don't I??


fundamental enough for you?


Plus, the Constitution does not say marriage is between a man and a woman ONLY
Hey, if she does not want to have sex with you it is not your 'right'. It is rape. Get over yourself.





By the way, your sex life or lack of sex life has nothing to do with gay marriage... unless...
It's called equal protection. Nobody thinks drinking from a water fountain is a fundamental right either but if you're going to have one you can't exclude people.
when straight marriage became a ';fundamental right.'; you can't exclude us.
so, marriage is what your question was about not sex. Everybody should have the right to marry whoever they want.
Where does it states that ANY marriage is a fundamental right?!?





Moot point - BUSTED!
you do have that right as long as they all consent. Just as two consenting adults SHOULD have the right to marry.