Thursday, January 21, 2010

What are the REAL arguments against same-sex marriage?

I have yet to encounter a REAL argument against same-sex marriage.





I'm interested in any argument that is NOT based on tradition (including religion or the ';sancity of marriage';) fear, or ignorance.





Please, I need real, educated, rational, logical reasons to oppose same-sex marriage.What are the REAL arguments against same-sex marriage?
there are none





to be against same-sex marriage is to be for discrimination, plain and simple. it goes against the very essence of being american and it shames and baffles me that this is still an issue in our country.What are the REAL arguments against same-sex marriage?
LMAO if you run into one do let me know! I'm writing a paper on gay marriage myself and I've come to the conclusion that no logical arguments exist to prevent same sex marriage or justify it not being legal.


There are no real valid logical reasons not to allow same sex marriage. Its all based around religious bias (which seems to have no place in reality at this rate) and discrimination.
why is this topic such a taboo, and regarded as unacceptable by so many?








-i mean i cant make up any argument regarding this topic without including tradition, culture, and religion...because this mass delusion of our times is solely rooted on these factors which makes up our society.
It's like tearing through a box stuffed with those white little foamy package things with excitement, trying to find a substance, some kind of object that gives the foamy things a purpose, until you realize, once you've torn through all the whiteness, it's all a bunch of worthless, fluffy, package-protecting crap.
I agree with anon. I wrote an article in my high school newspaper but I cannot find it, I will upload it asap. There really are no arguments against same sex marriage but religion %26amp; tradition.
I'm thinking really hard!





I can't think of any :(
Economic arguments





Dr. M. V. Lee Badgett, an economist and associate professor at the University of Massachusetts Amherst, has studied the impact of same-sex legal marriage on four groups.





Impact on same-sex couples: Badgett finds that exclusion from legal marriage has an economic impact on same-sex couples. According to a 1997 General Accounting Office study requested by Rep. Henry Hyde (R), at least 1,049 U.S. Federal laws and regulations include reference to marital status. A later 2004 study by the Congressional Budget Office finds 1,138 statutory provisions ';in which marital status is a factor in determining or receiving 'benefits, rights, and privileges.'';[106] Many of these laws govern property rights, benefits, and taxation. Same-sex couples are ineligible for spousal and survivor Social Security benefits. Badgett's research finds the resulting difference in Social Security income for same-sex couples compared to opposite-sex married couples is US$5,588 per year. The federal ban on same-sex marriage and benefits through the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) extends to federal government employee benefits. For example, after the 2006 death of former Massachusetts Congressman Gerry Studds (D), the first openly gay member of Congress, his legal spouse Dean Hara was denied the estimated $114,337 annual pension to which Hara would have been eligible if their Massachusetts marriage was recognized on the federal level. According to Badgett's work, same-sex couples face other financial challenges against which legal marriage at least partially shields opposite-sex couples:





* potential loss of couple's home from medical expenses of one partner caring for another gravely ill one





* costs of supporting two households, travel, or emigration out of the U.S. for an American citizen unable to legally marry a non-US citizen





* higher cost of purchasing private insurance for partner and children if company is not one of 18% that offer domestic partner benefits





* higher taxes: unlike a company's contribution to an employee's spouse's health insurance, domestic partner benefits are taxed as additional compensation





* legal costs associated with obtaining domestic partner documents to gain some of the power of attorney, health care decision-making, and inheritance rights granted through legal marriage





* higher health costs associated with lack of insurance and preventative care: 20% of same-sex couples have a member who is uninsured compared to 10% of married opposite-sex couples





* current tax law allows a spouse to inherit an unlimited amount from the deceased without incurring an estate tax but an unmarried partner would have to pay the estate tax on the inheritance from her/his partner





* same-sex couples are not eligible to file jointly or separately as a married couple and thus cannot take the advantages of lower tax rates when the individual income of the partners differs significantly





While state laws grant full marriage rights (Massachusetts) or some or all of the benefits under another name (Vermont, New Jersey, California, etc.), these state laws do not extend the benefits of marriage on the Federal level, and most states do not currently recognize same-sex marriages or civil unions from other states.





One often overlooked aspect of same-sex marriage are the potential negative effects on same-sex couples. While the legal benefits of marriage are numerous, same-sex couples would face the same financial constraints of legal marriage as opposite-sex married couples. Such potential effects include the marriage penalty in taxation. Similarly, while social service providers usually do not count one partner's assets toward the income means test for welfare and disability assistance for the other partner, a legally married couple's joint assets are normally used in calculating whether a married individual qualifies for assistance.





Impact on businesses: Dr. M. V. Lee Badgett's research estimates the potential impact on businesses of same-sex marriage legalization to be $2 billion to the wedding industry alone. Badgett derives this estimate by calculating the amount spent on weddings if a) half of same-sex couples marry and b) each couple spends 1/4 the average amount spent on an opposite-sex wedding (US$27,600 average wedding cost / 4 = US$6,900 per same-sex couple).





Impact on employers: In terms of employers where marriage opponents fear higher benefit costs, Badgett and Mercer Human Resources Consulting separately find less than 1% of employees with a same-sex partner sign up for domestic partner benefits when a company offers them. Badgett finds less than 0.3% of Massachusetts firms' employees signed up for spousal benefits when that state legalized same-sex marriage.





Impact on governments: A 2004 Congressional Budget Office (CBO) report examines the impact of allowing the 1.2 million Americans in same-sex domestic partnerships in the 2000 Ce

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